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Yesterday, 11:07 AM	? #1 (permalink)
Member ? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here, Now Posts: 2,752	AA Thing Did a meeting just don't feel like my heart is there. My mind drifts. Can't explain it. I'll be listening and I care but I drift away.i think insomnia and ADD (at my age) are still a problem. I did not talk that feels almost impossible to me bot I put ten bucks in the plate. Instead of the homeless today. Can't do everything. __________________ What the caterpillar calls the end, the rest of the world calls a butterfly ~ Lao Tsu
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Yesterday, 11:12 AM	? #3 (permalink)
AA Member ? Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Between Meetings Posts: 8,030	I don't think you need to put that much in the basket Fitz...I do think if AA is the route you want to take....You should not only study the Big Book...You should do what is in it. Find a sponsor to take you through the steps...And find out what recovery is all about. I know it turned my life around. __________________ all BB quotes 1st. Edition
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Yesterday, 11:22 AM	? #4 (permalink)
Member ? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here, Now Posts: 2,752	I have a sponor and work hard just a drifting mind since I was a baby. Looking for a new sponsor this guy is kind of a dick. I have issues with AA but trying. I need the companionship. I gave that much because when I was in treatment for a month there I had nothing to give. __________________ What the caterpillar calls the end, the rest of the world calls a butterfly ~ Lao Tsu
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Yesterday, 11:28 AM	? #5 (permalink)
Last Drink or Drug: 7/24/2009 ? Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 207	A day at a time. You are living your way into right thinking. Is your sponsor a dick or is he asking you to do things that you do not want to do? __________________ I've dealt with my ghosts and faced all my demons Finally content with a past I regret I've found you find strength in your moments of weakness For once I'm at peace with myself
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Yesterday, 11:29 AM	? #6 (permalink)
AA Member ? Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Between Meetings Posts: 8,030	A lot of people can't afford to put anything in Fitz...It ain't about the money....It's about getting better. If you don't like the sponsor you have...Find another one...It's all about moving forward. __________________ all BB quotes 1st. Edition
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Yesterday, 11:35 AM	? #7 (permalink)
Member ? Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 434	It doesn't sound like you sleep well, so I'm not surprised you drift. But you may be hearing more than you think you are. I found that sometimes what was being said, even though I wasn't paying attention, somehow entered my head. __________________ "The mind is its own place; it can make a hell of heaven or a heaven of hell" Milton
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Yesterday, 11:41 AM	? #9 (permalink)
Member ? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here, Now Posts: 2,752	I know as Dee would say I'm too hard on myself. But I did it so that is a win. Noone wants me to serve coffee anymore but I'm better at not knocking down chairs. Just can't talk. __________________ What the caterpillar calls the end, the rest of the world calls a butterfly ~ Lao Tsu
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Yesterday, 11:46 AM	? #10 (permalink)
Member ? Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 434	you really crack me up. I'm never sure if you are trying to be funny, or are just naturally funny, but never lose that sense of humor Fitz. It's winning! __________________ "The mind is its own place; it can make a hell of heaven or a heaven of hell" Milton
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Yesterday, 12:51 PM	? #12 (permalink)
instant ? Join Date: May 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 3,119	We are all a work in progress- we do our best at the time __________________ Let everyone be my teacher. May 15 2011
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Yesterday, 12:57 PM	? #13 (permalink)
Member ? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here, Now Posts: 2,752	Well I have attended neeting for 10 years. I was just spaced. __________________ What the caterpillar calls the end, the rest of the world calls a butterfly ~ Lao Tsu
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Yesterday, 01:05 PM	? #14 (permalink)
AA Member ? Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Between Meetings Posts: 8,030	Quote: Well I have attended neeting for 10 years. I was just spaced. It happens...Some meetings I'm spaced too....That's life. It time you worked the steps Fitz. They read this it every meeting for a reason. Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path. Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple program, usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. There are such unfortunates. They are not at fault; they seem to have been born that way. They are naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner of living which demands rigorous honesty. Their chances are less than average. There are those, too, who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders, but many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest. Our stories disclose in a general way what we used to be like, what happened, and what we are like now. If you have decided you want what we have and are willing to go to any length to get it-then you are ready to take certain steps. At some of these we balked. We thought we could find an easier, softer way. But we could not. With all the earnestness at our command, we beg of you to be fearless and thorough from the very start. Some of us have tried to hold on to our old ideas and the result was nil until we let go absolutely. Remember that we deal with alcohol-cunning, baffling, powerful! Without help it is too much for us. But there is One who has all power-that One is God. May you find Him now! Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the turning point. We asked His protection and care with complete abandon. Here are the steps we took, which are suggested as a program of recovery: 1.We admitted we were powerless over alcohol ? that our lives had become unmanageable. 2.Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. 3.Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him. 4.Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. 5.Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. 6.Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character. 7.Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings. 8.Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. 9.Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. 10.Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it. 11.Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out. 12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs. Many of us exclaimed, "What an order! I can't go through with it." Do not be discouraged. No one among us has been able to maintain anything like perfect adherence to these principles. We are not saints. The point is, that we are willing to grow along spiritual lines. The principles we have set down are guides to progress. We claim spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection. Our description of the alcoholic, the chapter to the agnostic, and our personal adventures before and after make clear three pertinent ideas: (a) That we were alcoholic and could not manage our own lives. (b) That probably no human power could have relieved our alcoholism. (c) That God could and would if He were sought. __________________ all BB quotes 1st. Edition
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Yesterday, 01:14 PM	? #15 (permalink)
Last Drink or Drug: 7/24/2009 ? Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 207	Quote: I guess if all meetings were like that AA wouldn't work would it? I'm guessing you didn't try many different meetings or attend any Big Book or step meetings....I remember you from your thread entitled "8 Months Sober. Just Me, & Jack Trimpey. . ." Let me ask you an honest question....What is the deal with working that program?...Is putting down AA part of what makes it work? I'm serious....Can you explain that to me? AA has worked for millions and it has worked for many here. It has worked for me and it has worked for you. It has done nothing but grown for 80 years and will continue to grow 80 years from now. AA is a program of attraction not promotion, neither endorses or opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to help alcoholics acheive sobriety. It plain and simple would not still be here if it did not work. AA has taught me respentments have no place in recovery. I look for the good in people and things and embrace them. I take what I want and leave the rest. I have found a new freedom and a new happiness. __________________ I've dealt with my ghosts and faced all my demons Finally content with a past I regret I've found you find strength in your moments of weakness For once I'm at peace with myself
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Yesterday, 01:26 PM	? #17 (permalink)
Member ? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here, Now Posts: 2,752	I am not figting a program those that know me know i will fight none if they work. Just did not sleep for PTSD reasons and kept like falling asleep nothing about AA or drinking just out being tired. __________________ What the caterpillar calls the end, the rest of the world calls a butterfly ~ Lao Tsu
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Yesterday, 01:29 PM	? #18 (permalink)
AA Member ? Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Between Meetings Posts: 8,030	Quote: You get what you give. And, it truly is the steps and my sponser and the hard work that I have put in to change my life that help me not go off the deep end of emotions when it comes to my recovery. That my friend....Is the whole program in a nutshell! __________________ all BB quotes 1st. Edition
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Yesterday, 01:33 PM	? #19 (permalink)
Member ? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here, Now Posts: 2,752	You guys are tough you make me think __________________ What the caterpillar calls the end, the rest of the world calls a butterfly ~ Lao Tsu
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Yesterday, 01:43 PM	? #21 (permalink)
Last Drink or Drug: 7/24/2009 ? Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 207	Quote: That my friend....Is the whole program in a nutshell! The same man/woman will drink again. The defination of insanity is doing the same things over and over but expecting different results. It is only when we change do we get the desired results which are sobriety, happiness, and serenity __________________ I've dealt with my ghosts and faced all my demons Finally content with a past I regret I've found you find strength in your moments of weakness For once I'm at peace with myself
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Yesterday, 01:56 PM	? #22 (permalink)
Member ? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here, Now Posts: 2,752	All I was saying was I was tired. But did my best i attended. __________________ What the caterpillar calls the end, the rest of the world calls a butterfly ~ Lao Tsu
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Yesterday, 02:00 PM	? #23 (permalink)
Last Drink or Drug: 7/24/2009 ? Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 207	Quote: All I was saying was I was tired. But did my best i attended. An that is all you need to do in the beginning. Come, listen, get to know others in recovery. __________________ I've dealt with my ghosts and faced all my demons Finally content with a past I regret I've found you find strength in your moments of weakness For once I'm at peace with myself
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Yesterday, 04:38 PM	? #24 (permalink)
Member ? Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CA Posts: 728	I don't know about everyone else, but without enough sleep, I can't think straight and I have a hard time concentrating on anything. Lets be gentle on ourselves, sending out a positive affirmation for relaxing, sustained sleep with no nightmares. __________________ I only have today...
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Yesterday, 04:43 PM	? #25 (permalink)
Member ? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here, Now Posts: 2,752	Well I hayve 7 months that is something __________________ What the caterpillar calls the end, the rest of the world calls a butterfly ~ Lao Tsu
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